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Pablo Torre Finds Out

Enter the Dungeon: An IRL Showdown with Mark Cuban on Kawhi-Gate

Pablo Torre Finds Out

Pablo Torre

News, Government, Sports, Sports News

4.72.6K Ratings

🗓️ 14 October 2025

⏱️ 101 minutes

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Summary

After tweeting 17,053 words in defense of his fellow billionaire NBA owner, the most polarizing member of Team Ballmer is back — in-studio — to confront all of Pablo's most burning questions: Why was Kawhi Leonard's deal kept so secret? When did the Clippers really know? Just how screwed was Aspiration? And what the hell do Cuban's Mavericks and the Knicks' Jalen Brunson have to do with this scandal?


• Part I: The Richest Owner in Sports, the Silent Superstar and the Rotten Apple Tree


• Part II: Team Ballmer vs. Team Sh*tting Bricks — an Argument with Mark Cuban


• Part III: The Mystery Investor, the No-Show Payday and the "Smoking Gun"


• Part IV: Steve Ballmer, the Other Cuban and the $118 Million Infusion


• Part V: Steve Ballmer's "Inconceivable" Donation, the $20 Million Guarantee and a Head on a Spike


(Pablo Torre Finds Out is independently produced by Meadowlark Media and distributed by The Athletic. The views, research and reporting expressed in this episode are solely those of Pablo Torre Finds Out, and do not reflect the work or editorial input of The Athletic or its journalists.)


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0:00.0

Welcome to Pablo Torre finds out. I am Pablo Torre, and today we're going to find out what this sound is.

0:07.0

Kudos to you for finding your sources. No issues there. The conclusions you came to,

0:13.1

sh-it-on, Steve Balmer, and that was wrong. Right after the second.

0:22.2

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0:24.8

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0:29.4

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0:31.4

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0:33.7

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0:37.4

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0:40.5

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0:42.9

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0:47.9

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0:50.4

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0:53.4

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1:15.4

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1:20.9

Sanjeeves just received a decent bonus. Nice work, Sanjeeve. He knows he could invest all of the money,

1:25.8

but he's seen a new watch he likes.

1:32.3

He's not worried. With his HSBC Premier bank account and access to their financial advice service,

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