You are listening to the Enormo Cast.

All right, all right, settle down everybody, settle down.

Okay, Black Diamond C4, take it away.

Okay, is this thing on?

All right, everybody.

I know you have a few questions after a long winter of ice climbing.

So yeah, you in the back, the Tradadad with the Sigg.

So it seems like I've had black diamond camel outs hanging off my rack since 1987.

How are you still so high on the horse, boy?

Well, B.D. retools and redesigns on the rag I'm lighter stronger with every upgrade

too bad we can't say the same about you huh tried dad I can still hand jail okay, yeah, the comp kid who crushes Trad now.

My mom bought me three sets of ultralight Camelots.

Well, kid, those ultra lights are sweet.

Light, fast, smooth, all the things, but not everybody has a mom with a

platinum card willing to buy her snookums whatever she wants, now do they? So yeah,

ultra lights are swell, the Ferraris. But us C4 Camlots, we're down here in the trenches with you every day.

You know what I'm saying? Like the cam equivalent of your Tacoma.

Just ask the creek climbers over there.

Hell yeah, brother.

Okay, one last question.

Gond the internet that doesn't actually climb.

It says here that a number one C4 holds 12 kilo-neutons,

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