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Hello and welcome to the Football Daily podcast with me, Ian Dennis,

where it's finished England 2 and Dora Nill at Villa Park.

And I'm joined by two former England defenders in Matt Ubson and Phil Jones.

England then four wins from four in Group K.

They are five points clear of Serbia, who they meet in Belgrade on Tuesday night.

We all once again have commentary from Belgrade on Tuesday night on BBC Radio 5 live.

But Matt, the performance once again at times was a hard watch.

Yeah, yeah, tough watch and not the kind of riveting edge of your seat type stuff.

But if I'm honest, I think it's a little step too far to expect that in this fixture.

I will say that, but you want to see a little bit more, then I.

No, would you agree that you want to see something a little bit more from England in terms of speed of the passing, aggressive decisions, physicality, keeping it simple.

I think it can easily get too complex

because there's so many patterns and touches and moves

whereas the simple things in that game created something

because top quality that's done in a world-class way

that's really simple is hard to play against.

And I think when England delivered that,

we're at our best.

And for me, that's where the goal's going through. What do you think, Phil? Too safe? A little bit. But I have to defend England a little bit. It's so difficult to play against that. So difficult to break them down. They were so... I mean, you just put any sort of bodies in the box around there. it's very difficult to find the space to play the little combinations that they used to play in.

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