Hey everyone. This is Trevor Grindle, one of the producers of the Allender Center podcast.

We recently wrapped up the Allener Center marriage conference with Dan and Becky Allender and

Steve and Lisa Call of the Reconnect Institute. So as our team is reflecting on that incredible event

and gearing up for next spring's marriage and Richmond retreat, we thought we'd go back into

the archives to revisit a conversation between the

Islanders and the calls. In this episode from 2020, they talk about engaging triggers in a marriage.

Sounds fun, right? Whether you're married or not, we hope this topic will help you in any of your

close relationships with a spouse, friend, or family member, and will prompt you to consider

the triggers you have and the triggers you notice in those close to you. If you'd like to learn more about the marriage offerings

from the Allender Center, please visit thealandercenter.org slash marriage.

Thank you for listening to the Allender Center podcast. I'm Dr. Dan Allender. And I'm Rachel

Clinton-Centen. We're fiercely committed to providing hope and healing to a fragmented world.

And restoration for the heart. Thank you for joining us. Let's get this conversation started.

Well, there this conversation started.

Well, there is nothing better than laughing and weeping with dear friends, comrades, not only in arms, but in this wild process of engaging marriage.

And so for Becky and I to be with dear friends and colleagues,

Steve and Lisa Call, it is an honor to have you back to talk about the issues between the two of you.

That's our primary point is to talk through what goes on between the two of you when one of you gets

triggered. And then Becky and I will listen, learn, because we don't want to talk about it.

We don't have any triggers. I asked her before. What triggers do you have? She goes, I don't have any.

Oh, yes, she does. Yeah, well. when you... Oh, thanks a lot, Steve.

Yes, I do.

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