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Energy: Where ESG Impact Falls Short with Will Thomson of Massif Capital

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🗓️ 29 October 2020

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

Will Thomson returns to the show to discuss Massif Capital’s recent paper on how ESG funds are failing to invest in the resources and companies necessary to drive a clean energy transition. We also discuss potential investment opportunities in some of these underappreciated areas. Sectors discussed include: lithium, copper, rare earth metals, electric utilities, SPACs, and more.

Stocks Mentioned: VWDRY, RWEOY, NEE, TRQ, LAC, FVAC, TSLA, TSX:IVN

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0:00.0

Welcome to Industry Focus. The Podcast that dives into a different sector of the stock market each day.

0:11.0

I'm your host Emily Flippin. I'm Jason Moser. I'm Nick Seidful. I'm Dylan Lewis. And today we're talking financials. Today we're talking consumer goods.

0:19.0

Wildcar! Wednesday. And we're talking energy. And today we're talking tech. Let's dive in.

0:27.4

Welcome to Industry Focus. I'm Nick Saipel. This week I'm excited to welcome

0:30.5

Will Thompson of Massive Capital back to the podcast.

0:33.6

Last time we took a look at the coming global energy transition and

0:37.0

where potential may lie within that.

0:39.8

This time around we'll be discussing how ESG strategies may be starving capital from the

0:43.7

industries that are most critical to leading that transition. Will thanks again for

0:47.9

joining me. Thanks for having me Nick. Great to have you back on as I said in the intro we're going to be talking about

0:54.0

ESG investing today. I pulled a couple of numbers just to frame the

0:58.0

conversation off the bat as at the end of second quarter 2020 according to

1:01.4

Morningstar 534 index funds are focused on sustainability,

1:05.7

overseeing a combined $250 billion in the US. That's quadrupled in the past three years,

1:11.6

the investment in these types of funds.

1:13.6

Morgan Stanley said earlier this year that ESG will quote define the next decade of investing.

1:19.1

Will you just wrote a paper entitled Failure to Impact our ESG funds delivering on investors ambitions.

1:26.0

Where do you think ESG funds are coming up short today?

1:28.0

Well, Nick, there are quite a few places in our opinion at least.

1:34.5

So the paper which will make available to your listeners

1:39.4

specifically focuses on sort of what ESG ETS are doing in regards to accomplishing investors goals as they

1:49.0

relate to climate change in the environment.

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