Welcome Industry Focus, I'm Nick Saipel.

I've got a little different show for you today.

Earlier this week I sat down with Dan Albert, car critic at N-plus 1 magazine,

Automotive Historian, and author of the recent book,

Are We There Yet, The American Automobile,

Past, Present, and Driverless.

We talked about how the automobile changed America from helping drive the development of

consumer debt culture to its role in pushing pedestrians and cyclists off city streets.

We discussed the Electric Vehicle Company who pioneered mobility as a service, battery swapping,

electric vehicle business model more than a century before the onset of Uber and left,

and we consider how the infrastructure built to sustain the car

has shaped the development of autonomous vehicles. Had a great dime picking Dan's

brain about the past and future of automobiles and I hope you'll enjoy the

conversation as much as I did. Today I'm joined by Dan Albert.

Dan Albert writes about cars and culture for N-plus-1 magazine and is the author of a new book,

Are we there yet?

The American Automobile Past, Present, and Driverless.

Dan Albert, welcome Industry Focus.

Thank you so much. happy to be with you.

Happy to have you here. Really enjoyed reading your book. I think one of the biggest things I

learned from the book is how, when the automobile came onto the scene, how it's

when the automobile came onto the scene, how it changed American societies.

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