Energy Beats Strategy — Fortune 500 CEO REVEALS Burnout Myths

Negotiate Anything

American Negotiation Institute

Education, Careers, Business

4.8 • 659 Ratings

🗓️ 25 August 2025

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Energy beats strategy — and former Siemens & Alcoa CEO Klaus Kleinfeld reveals the playbook to end burnout, regain focus, and execute at the highest level. In this conversation, Klaus Kleinfeld breaks down why energy management—not tactics—separates elite leaders from exhausted teams. You’ll hear how to turn purpose into a “laser,” control emotions under pressure, win buy‑in without formal authority, and build routines that actually stick when life is chaotic. Connect with Klaus Kleinfeld: Buy the Book: Leading to Thrive: Mastering Strategies for Sustainable Success in Business and Life Follow Klaus Kleinfeld on LinkedIn Contact ANI ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Request A Customized Workshop For Your Company⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow Kwame Christian on LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠negotiateanything.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Click here to buy your copy of Finding Confidence in Conflict: How to Negotiate Anything and Live Your Best Life! Discount code "KWAME" gives 30% discount over 3 months TL;DR what is folk? folk is a CRM, and extension, that helps businesses build real relationships and close deals. Why is folk better? folk is simple, integrated, and proactive to use. folk’s value proposition? folk CRM does the busy work for you, so you can focus on growing your service business. folk’s tagline folk, like the sales assistant your team never had What product details will most excite your audience? • ⁠Our seamless integrations with social channels⁠ • ⁠Our 1-click Enrichment that finds contact details for y⁠ ⁠ou⁠ • ⁠Know the best leads to reach out to with AI Follow-up⁠ ⁠s⁠ Useful links & resources •⁠ folk's website⁠ •⁠ folk's Linkedin⁠ • ⁠Simo, our CEO’s, LinkedIn⁠ • ⁠folk's Youtube⁠ In this episode, you’ll learn: The Energy Stack: body, mind (emotional + mental), and spirit—and how each fuels performance. Purpose as a Force Multiplier: why purpose focuses energy like a laser and makes hard work feel lighter. Emotion Control Under Fire: observer mindset (“interesting…”), the Buddha “gift” story, and box breathing (4‑4‑4‑4) you can use mid‑negotiation. Beating Burnout with Micro‑Habits: morning training, sleep + light discipline, intermittent fasting, and travel resets that keep leaders sharp. Compartmentalization & Presence: shutting the “monkey mind” to be fully with family or fully at work—on purpose. Buy‑In Without Authority: build a burning platform (competition + customer reality), tell human stories, and pass the “Saturday morning” test. #Leadership #Burnout #HighPerformance #Energy #Purpose #EmotionalIntelligence #Negotiation #ChangeManagement #TeamCulture #KlausKleinfeld #Siemens #Alcoa #CEO #Mindset #Routines

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0:00.0	What if the real reason you're stuck isn't your strategy, but your energy? Now, before you just
0:05.4	skip this episode, I know that sounds out there, but you have to know who's talking today.
0:10.4	It is Klaus Kleinfeld. He's known for being the only leader ever to have successfully served
0:16.8	as CEO of two Fortune 500 companies on two different continents, Alcoa in the United States
0:23.1	and Siemens in Germany. He's advised presidents run multi-billion dollar companies, and now
0:28.4	he's here to share what no one at the top ever admits out loud. In this episode, Klaus reveals
0:34.1	the brutal truth behind high-performance leadership, why energy matters more than
0:38.2	tactics, and how reconnecting with purpose might be the only way out of burnout. So stick around
0:45.0	because by the end of this conversation, one of the most respected business minds in the world
0:49.8	might just change the way you lead and how you live. Let's dive in.
0:57.5	When you're thinking about the person who's listening to the show,
1:00.2	if they were to embody and put into practice the things that they learn from you today,
1:05.3	how does their life change?
1:08.5	Well, Kwamea, I wrote the book.
1:10.3	I mean, if you would have asked me two years ago,
1:12.4	Claus, would you sit down and write a book. I would have probably said, no way. There's
1:16.9	enough leadership books on the market. But then I realized that one thing is missing. And that's
1:23.0	why my book is, I think, a very atypical book on leadership. And that's why I called it not just on business, but also on life,
1:29.5	because what people are missing as a framework of how do you lead your life
1:33.1	and the understanding of the concept of energy,
1:36.0	which I fortunately learned late, but I learned it in my life.
1:41.3	And I got to this for two things. One is I saw that I didn't only see burned out people
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