This podcast is brought to you have infinite energy.

Yeah.

Because you see where it's going, you see how it's having impact, when you're a founder or a creator like having that bigger

picture and saying I'm doing this for this North Star objective and I'm connecting

the yeah I'm doing emails right now, but it's connecting to this larger goal, then you find that energy.

Welcome to the Real Real, where we go behind the highlight reel and go into the unfiltered.

I'm your host Natalie Barboooo and let's get into it.

Hello Amanda, thanks for coming my podcast.

Thank you for having me.

I'm so so excited.

We've been planning to do this forever.

I feel like for like two years.

I know.

No, no, I think our schedule is just like we're both very busy we both travel a lot so it just didn't line up but I am so excited to have you on because

whenever people ask me like who do you admire in business like you're one of the first people that comes to mind

just because like you've built such successful brands and you are not afraid to express your femininity, which I don't think is that common in the startup world.

I think it's like one or the other, like you you know building a brand and that's kind of like your only focus and only passion in life or

you're an influencer and you're like life is your brand right but the two don't really merge I've always felt

conflicted with that yeah yeah because like I want to show both sides of me yeah all

sides of me yeah I definitely the way I think about it is that I have all of these different

characters inside of me. It's like a movie and each character is its own person with their own goals and it's okay that they don't

combine like I think where we feel all of this like tension is that we feel like we

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