Energetics, Mutual Aid and the Future of Herbalism, an Interview with Kat Maier
The Plant Path: Herbalism, Medical Astrology & Spagyric Alchemy
Sajah Popham
4.8 • 570 Ratings
🗓️ 6 August 2025
⏱️ 77 minutes
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Summary
Today, I am excited to share with you my interview with Kathleen Maier. She's a fantastic herbalist who's been at it for quite some time, and I was honored to be able to speak with her.
Here's what you can look forward to in this interview:
- We discuss Kat's book, Energetic Herbalism, which covers energetics from a wide range of perspectives and orientations.
- We talk about Kat's inspirations for the book and some key takeaways from it, including what energetics is, and the uniting principles of energetics that apply cross-culturally worldwide.
- Insights from Kat's work in clinical herbalism mentoring
- We discuss the transition from being a student herbalist to a practicing herbalist, what holds us back in that transition, and the practical and business aspects of being a clinical herbalist.
- We talk about Kat's work providing aid and herbal services to people in need, including disaster relief efforts, and how herbalists and companies can provide support to people who need help, which Kat calls "mutual aid."
We covered a lot of ground, and I hope you'll enjoy our conversation!
Learn more about Kat here:
Website: https://www.katmaierherbalism.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/katmaier7/
Purchase her Book: https://sacredplanttraditions.com/#buybook
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ABOUT THE PLANT PATH
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The Plant Path is a window into the world of herbal medicine. With perspectives gleaned from traditional Western herbalism, Ayurveda, Chinese Medicine, Alchemy, Medical Astrology, and traditional cultures from around the world, The Plant Path provides unique insights, skills and strategies for the practice of true holistic herbalism. From clinical to spiritual perspectives, we don't just focus on what herbs are "good for," but rather who they are as intelligent beings, and how we can work with them to heal us physically and consciously evolve.
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ABOUT SAJAH
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Sajah Popham is the author of Evolutionary Herbalism and the founder of the School of Evolutionary Herbalism, where he trains herbalists in a holistic system of plant medicine that encompasses clinical Western herbalism, medical astrology, Ayurveda, and spagyric alchemy.
His mission is to develop a comprehensive approach that balances the science and spirituality of plant medicine, focusing on using plants to heal and rejuvenate the body, clarify the mind, open the heart, and support the development of the soul. This is only achieved through understanding and working with the chemical, energetic, and spiritual properties of the plants. His teachings embody a heartfelt respect, honor and reverence for the vast intelligence of plants in a way that empowers us to look deeper into the nature of our medicines and ourselves.
He lives on a homestead in the foothills of Mt. Baker Washington with his wife Whitney where he teaches, consults clients, and prepares spagyric herbal medicines.
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| 0:00.0 | Well, hello there, everybody, and welcome back to The Plant Path. |
| 0:13.9 | I'm your host, Sagea Popham, founder of Natura Sophia Spajerix and the School of Evolutionary |
| 0:20.7 | Herbalism. And I am excited to be |
| 0:23.0 | presenting to you today an interview that I did with Kathleen Meyer. And she is a fantastic |
| 0:32.3 | herbalist who's been at it for quite some time. And I was really honored to get a chance to chat with her today. |
| 0:40.8 | This was an interview long coming. We were supposed to do it multiple times in the past. And it just |
| 0:48.1 | schedules didn't line up and things didn't work out. And so we finally got it to happen. And it was a very enjoyable interview. |
| 0:57.7 | If I might say so, myself, at least it was for me. Hopefully it will be for you too. And I think we'll |
| 1:03.0 | probably have Kat back on the show in the future. So what do we talk about? Well, we covered a lot of |
| 1:09.4 | ground. You know, first off, I really wanted to hear her talk a little bit more about her book, |
| 1:15.2 | Energetic Herbalism, which came out a couple of years ago. |
| 1:19.9 | And I really like that book. |
| 1:22.3 | You know, it covers the concept of energetics from a wide range of perspectives and orientations. |
| 1:32.8 | And it's very, very good. |
| 1:35.5 | And I highly recommend everybody check out her book. |
| 1:38.7 | So we talked about her book a bit and what her inspiration was for her book. |
| 1:43.5 | And some of the key aspects of that |
| 1:46.2 | book, some of the main takeaways, specifically like what is energetics and what are the |
| 1:53.6 | uniting principles of energetics cross-culturally worldwide that apply, regardless of where you are, who you are, where you're from, |
| 2:03.5 | what time it is, you know, what are the universalities that we see present in the practice of |
| 2:13.2 | verbal medicine. So we talked about that. We also talked about some of her new projects that she's working on, |
| 2:19.0 | specifically in terms of clinical herbalism mentoring. Kat ran a clinical program for a very long time. |
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