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The Bunker

Enemy of the State – How dangerous is Trump's national security purge?

The Bunker

Podmasters

News, Politics, Society & Culture, Government

4.6984 Ratings

🗓️ 9 April 2025

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Summary

Why is Donald Trump dismantling America’s national security apparatus? And how dangerous will this be for the US and the world? The commander-in-chief recently dismissed six National Security Council staffers, reportedly at the request of right-wing influencer and conspiracy theorist Laura Loomer.  Today in The Bunker, national security journalist Ben Makuch joins Jacob Jarvis to ask: Who is Laura Loomer, and why does she have the ear of the president? Plus, they unpack the global consequences of Trump’s ongoing efforts to hollow out the United States’ security infrastructure. • We are sponsored by Indeed. Go to https://indeed.com/bunker for £100 sponsored credit.   https://www.patreon.com/c/bunkercast  Written and presented by Jacob Jarvis. Produced by Liam Tait. Audio editors: Simon Williams. Managing editor: Jacob Jarvis. Music by Kenny Dickinson. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. THE BUNKER is a Podmasters Production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Hello and welcome to The Bunker. I'm Jacob Jarvis.

0:59.5

With each passing day, it becomes more and more clear that Donald Trump is a threat to America's national security,

1:03.2

which unfortunately makes him a threat to global security.

1:09.6

The latest scandal at the time we record, anyway, is that he fired six National Security Council staffers,

1:12.3

reportedly at the behest of Laura Luma,

1:17.8

a conspiracy theorist who is believed to be, I'll say, pretty close to the president, and I'll leave it at that. To discuss Trump's dismantling of the United States security apparatus, I'm joined by

1:23.3

Ben Makou, an independent national security reporter and frequent contributor to the Guardian US.

1:28.3

Ben, thanks for joining me.

1:29.3

Thanks for having me.

1:30.3

Ben, first of all, can we talk about some of the characters involved here?

1:34.3

Is Laura Luma someone you're pleased to hear about making high-level decisions in the government?

1:41.3

Funny enough, I'm in, I mean, as many journalists are,

1:45.1

I'm in like a group chat with, you know,

1:47.2

various reporters from different places.

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