On May 3rd, Endless Thread is back with infectious, a special series about the

strange past and surprising present of vaccines and anti-vaxxers.

The fact that in 2019, we're having this debate about measles vaccine makes my

head want to explode. We're just in this strange, really strange place in the

only people speaking up of the parents.

Throughout the internet in Facebook for instance.

It's a Facebook group, the poster on Facebook.

My research is really about disinformation and media manipulation online.

You must be busy.

Yeah, it seems like everything broke at once.

Which is not true.

This story and this fight, it isn't just about right now.

It can be traced back over centuries and today's battles are just the latest cycle.

My personal guess is that somebody died of smallpox out in the middle of the

Kobe desert. Somebody came upon their body and the body was desiccated and they

breathed in the dust from the body. They didn't get sick and that's that's where

the ball got rolling.

It's a cycle of medical experimentation, innovation and reaction.

The person who stopped talking to you was that hard?

Yeah, I felt very hurt by it.

I'm told that I'm crazy and an anti-vaxxer and I'm uneducated and that, you know, there's

a lot of gas lighting that goes on in this world.

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