Endless Grasping with Oscar Isaac & Ali Wong
The A24 Podcast
A24
4.7 • 1.2K Ratings
🗓️ 15 April 2026
⏱️ 27 minutes
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Summary
Topics covered include:
NPR podcast voice, evangelical upbringings, Beef creator Lee Sung Jin's incredible observations of things that are both really painful and really funny, little mullets, Ali's love of Ex Machina, parallel play, the impressive amount of bodily fluids in Beef, Oscar first meeting Carey Mulligan on set of Drive, getting to play really bad people, going down a YouTube rabbit hole to learn how people respond to psychedelic toad venom, the intricacies of staging a masturbation scene, Ali competing for roles with Stanley Tucci, and Sonny’s trick of taking you to Korea so you have nobody to complain to.
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| 0:00.0 | Are we supposed to introduce ourselves? And do we do to the camera? This one? Hi, I'm Ali Wong. |
| 0:06.0 | Hi, I'm Oscar Isaac. And this is the 824 podcast. I'm using my podcast voice. You sure are. |
| 0:13.3 | Very NPR of you. Very non-threatening. Very cozy cardigan. Very, a little cloud dream. |
| 0:20.7 | Yeah. So, Oscar, I don't even know, like, I'm not right. Very cozy cardigan. Very, a little cloud dream. Yeah. |
| 0:21.6 | So Oscar, I don't even know, like, I just assume that people who are movie stars don't watch TV because it's beneath you. |
| 0:30.6 | So I was surprised that you were a fan of beef and that you watched beef. |
| 0:34.6 | So how did you even come on to season one? Well, everybody was talking about it. I remember watching the first two episodes and just loving it. And then I have children that don't let me watch anything. So then I didn't get to finish it. It was one of those. I was like, I gotta finish that. And then I had gotten a call from Sunny about a new season. Oh, nice. |
| 0:57.0 | And so I was like, well, now I got to finish it. |
| 0:59.2 | And I loved it. |
| 1:02.0 | And it was so funny because, like, I already liked it from those first two, but then in that third episode, it takes such a turn emotionally, you know, when Stephen's at the church |
| 1:08.2 | and the song is playing and he starts crying and yeah. |
| 1:11.6 | You know what's funny about that? Is that so in that scene where he starts crying, |
| 1:17.6 | we were all at dinner together and I was like, oh my God, Steve and I just watched that scene. |
| 1:22.6 | And I was like, he was like, oh yeah, and I was like, it's so funny. |
| 1:26.6 | And he was like, no, it's not. And I was like, he was like, oh yeah. And I was like, it's so funny. And he was like, no, it's not. And I was like, yeah, it is, man. I was like, it's hilarious. How you just start how like, you're like that and you just start crying. And he was like, I don't. And can't stop. And yeah. And then he was like, I didn't think it was, I really don't see it or whatever. And then I was so uncomfortable. And I went to go to the bathroom at this, like, cream barbecue place. I was like, oh, my God, did I have met Stephen? But then thereafter a lot of people. And then he sort of like embraced it. But because he was so committed, that's why it worked. Of course. Because he can't judge it and think that that scene is funny. |
| 2:01.5 | You know what it reminds me of, I remember when I was doing Inside Lewin Davis. And whenever I would. Which I just saw recently. Yeah. Well, when I would do. So good. So, so good. Yeah. When I would do a scene. And if I thought of it, I was like, oh, this scene's pretty funny. I would do it and there wouldn't be much of reaction. |
| 2:20.0 | But whenever I was like, oh, this scene's pretty funny. I would do it, and there, you know, there wouldn't be much a reaction. But whenever I was in my most in pain, the cones would just be cracking up. Yeah. And so there's just something about that. Yeah. You know, where it is so, you do take it seriously. The part of you that can connect to taking it seriously, |
| 2:34.8 | like that's what makes it work. |
| 2:37.3 | For sure. |
| 2:37.8 | I mean, I think it's also like Sunny's tone, right? |
| 2:40.4 | The fact that that is happening, which is very real, |
| 2:43.9 | but surrounded by all this hyper-Christian praise music |
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