Hey, what's up everybody? Michael Steele here. Welcome to the Michael Steele podcast. It is always a joy and a pleasure to my heart to have you in the house.

So glad you can join us. Number one, hope you're staying safe. You're wearing the damn mask, right? You're not.

It's stupid. That's right. Don't. Don't be a dumbass. You may have heard me say that a time or two. Um, and number one, I hope everybody's doing well. Number two, thanks for being a part of the program. Of course, you know, I love it. When you do that download thing, I feel it. I feel it in my bones every time you download Apple podcast, stitch or tune in wherever you get your downloads on. You know, I love it.

You know, I love that. Don't forget to follow me on Twitter at Michael Steele. And we always have fun, right? That's why you're here. And to make this moment extra special.

I brought on someone. I think everyone, not only do you know her, you love her. You just do because she is that special.

Tara's that not her. Yes, yes, yes. She is more than the CNN political commentator that you see over at that other network.

She's also got that ABC political contributor thing going on. She's more than that. And she's more than the former GOP communications director on Capitol Hill.

She is the current host of the honestly speaking with Tara podcast. And she brings it every time, every time she is a political soulmate of mine, a dear friend.

We have been in some wars and some trenches together. And we're in one right now, which is why I'm glad she could be here with us.

And you certainly seen her from time to time on ABC's The View, where she you are in that program for a little bit of a moment, right?

I have co hosted a time or two or two years, that is correct.

That's right. Good morning, America and nightline. She also made numerous appearances on HBO's real time with Bill Mar. We've never done that one together. I would that would be we have not, but you know, who I have done that show with who is still to this day four years later, not speaking to me because of our joint.

Appearance Senator Rick Santorum. Oh, okay. Well, we are very upset with me because we make it. We make it.

And it is asked to him in 2016. Oh, there we go. And he we are CNN colleagues and he has not spoken to me since then. Wow.

Since all this of 2016. Yeah. Well, you know, my call like I see it. So yeah, grudge much. Okay. Guilty watch. Maybe I'm glad. I'm glad.

I'm going to go ahead. Oh, yeah, baby. This is going to be live. Y'all strapping. I hope somebody got someone.

That's you going to need it. Get through this one.

So I have the added pleasure of not only saying your friend, but you are a colleague. We are together at the Lincoln project.

And everybody is very familiar with the work of the Lincoln project, which is trying to to write the constitutional ship.

And to be quite honest, to present a little bit of an inema to our Republican party.

The clean out some of the the Trump ish that has and that has taken over, if you will.

Uncomfortable, but necessary. Uncomfortable, but necessary. What what what got you?

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