Ending the Hidden Occupation

Deconstructed

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🗓️ 10 March 2023

⏱️ 37 minutes

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This week, Rep. Matt Gaetz, R-Fla., brought forward a war powers resolution, backed by the Congressional Progressive Caucus, that would bring U.S. troops home from Syria. On Wednesday night, the resolution was rejected by Democrats and Republicans alike. During the debate, some advocated for an endless occupation, while their arguments unwittingly made the point that the U.S. government may not be the best group to solve the crisis. This week on Deconstructed, Ryan Grim is joined by Robert Ford, who was President Barack Obama’s ambassador to Syria up until 2014. Although he was known inside the White House as a hawkish supporter of arming the Syrian opposition, this week he came out in support of Gaetz’s resolution to pull out U.S. troops. Ford describes some of the political maneuvering and behind-the-scenes conversations taking place in 2013 and why he is calling to remove U.S. troops from Syria.

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0:00.0	We all think we have an instinct for the truth, but is the truth enough or are we listening
0:07.0	for something else?
0:08.0	I'm Dina Nayyeri and in my new book, Who Gets Believed, I will take you behind the scenes
0:13.4	in emergency rooms, board rooms, asylum interviews and even into my own family to explore the difficulties
0:20.0	of persuasion and performance and to ask, where's the line between being believed and
0:25.4	being dismissed?
0:26.4	Who Gets Believed Is Out Now?
0:36.4	Welcome back to Deconstructed, I'm Ryan Grimm.
0:38.4	So if you're watching the House floor this week, you could have been forgiven for wondering
0:42.4	if you'd stepped into a time machine and emerged sometime in 2002 or 2003.
0:47.9	Here's Ryan Zinke, Trump's former interior secretary who now represents Montana in Congress
0:52.5	explaining why the House should reject a war power's resolution brought forward by
0:56.8	Representative Matt Gates and backed by the Congressional Progressive Caucus that would
1:00.2	bring US troops home from Syria.
1:02.8	The hard truth is this, either we fight him in Syria or we'll fight him here, either
1:09.6	we fight and defeat him in Syria or we'll fight him in the streets of our nation.
1:16.4	Gates is a Republican who represents the Florida Panhandle and led the rebellion against Kevin
1:20.2	McCarthy in January.
1:22.0	His war powers resolution came up quickly with little time for anti-war groups to mobilize
1:26.0	their membership in lobby Congress and came up for a vote on Wednesday evening.
1:30.0	Here's Gates with a brief history lesson on how we got here.
1:33.2	And so people watching this debate might wonder how has it come to be that Syria has become
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