Patagonia has just launched a podcast, Patagonia Stories. In each episode,

host our Chana Rom will explore how we gather knowledge and ask questions about our relationship

to each other in the natural world. Questions like, how are lessons passed down through generations

to help us feel at home? What barriers prevent us from acquiring natural wisdom? How can we adapt

in the face for rapidly changing climate? There's so much more to come. You can find the first season

of Patagonia Stories wherever you get your podcasts.

You're listening to The Derback Dairy, a production of Duck Tape Than Beer, with additional support

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So today we're headed to Arizona, east of Phoenix. Right on a climbing trip. Yeah, well, and

potentially the last climbing trip we'll ever get in this place. It's called Oak Flat. It's a

ceremonial and sacred site for the San Carlos Apache tribe among a lot of others in the area.

It's a beloved climbing area. It's a rare riparian zone in the desert that's home to many

endangered species. It is absolutely beautiful. It is. I've been there. So what's the catch?

Well, it's slated to become a thousand-foot deep crater in the ground. The largest copper mine

in the history of North America.

Today we bring you the latest installment in our endangered spaces series. The story of a place

with incredible power, spiritually, economically and recreationally. The battle to possess it,

the fight to protect it. I'm Fitska Hall. I'm Cordelia Zars. And you're listening to The Dirt Back

Daors.

You want to tell me what you're about to do?

I am about to climb a chimney.

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