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The Gist

Encounters With the Very, Very Famous

The Gist

Peach Fish Productions

News, Daily News

4.53.7K Ratings

🗓️ 16 May 2017

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

One piece of interview advice from Chuck Klosterman: You can't make a celebrity interview feel like a real conversation. "They know it's not real. They wouldn't be here, and I wouldn't be asking these questions, if it wasn't for the tape recorder," says Klosterman. His new book, X, includes profiles and essays on some of the biggest names in pop culture from Klosterman's storied career, including Kobe Bryant and Taylor Swift. In the Spiel, breaking down the disparate, strange, nonsensical explanations for Donald Trump's Russia leaks. Join Slate Plus! Members get bonus segments, exclusive member-only podcasts, and more. Sign up for a free trial today at slate.com/gistplus. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

The following podcast contains explicit language.

0:07.9

It's Monday, May 16, 2017 from Slated to the Gisdai Mike Pesca.

0:12.5

The pitfall of a general, they say, is fighting the last war.

0:16.6

The same with politicians.

0:18.3

Their pitfall of verse also, but their wars are scandals.

0:22.8

The entire private server mess was Hillary Clinton trying to avoid the invasiveness

0:28.3

that marked her career in politics.

0:30.6

She thought she could forestall the next whitewater or travel gate or file gate scandal,

0:35.6

but just not having a paper trail.

0:37.5

Yeah, that turned out to be the magi no line of data management.

0:41.9

With this White House, I think they're fighting the last war when a president was almost impeached.

0:47.7

Was about to be impeached.

0:49.4

Let's compare it today to 1974.

0:51.7

Investigations, possible conspiracies, threats of taping.

0:55.7

Oh my gosh, it's Henry Kissinger.

0:57.6

He top advisor named HR, resentment of the media, jowls.

1:02.5

With all that in the air, here's what I think the president's advisors are doing.

1:07.3

They're making President Trump impervious to the question that felled Nixon.

1:12.0

Now let's recall what Howard Baker famously asked.

1:14.8

What did the president know and when did he know it?

1:19.6

With this president, they have crafted a bulletproof answer.

1:23.7

Nothing and never.

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