Encounters - (Project Book Club)
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Bryce Zabel
4.6 • 559 Ratings
🗓️ 22 July 2025
⏱️ 60 minutes
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Summary
In this episode of Project Book Club, Bryce Zabel and Chrissy Newton explore Encounters, the follow-up to Dr. Diana Walsh Pasulka's American Cosmic. The conversation centers on the evolving relationship between technology, belief, and non-human intelligence, with Bryce and Chrissy examining the book's central thesis: that the phenomenon is not just material, but deeply metaphysical—and that contact may already be happening, just not in ways we fully understand.
They discuss the unique cast of characters Pasulka highlights, including scientists, technologists, and experiencers who remain anonymous yet share stunning claims. From mysterious artifacts to altered states of consciousness, the episode dives into how Encounters blends religious studies, high strangeness, and modern science in a way that challenges traditional disclosure narratives. Bryce and Chrissy weigh in on Pasulka's writing style, noting the poetic, sometimes abstract tone that leaves room for interpretation and wonder.
They also share their personal takeaways—what resonated, what raised eyebrows, and how this book fits into the larger puzzle of UAP research. Along the way, they reflect on themes of secrecy, belief, and the possibility that humanity is already in dialogue with something beyond itself. As always, the conversation is rich with insight, curiosity, and just the right amount of caffeine. This episode invites listeners not only to read the book but to question how we define evidence, contact, and reality itself.
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to Project Book Club, where UFOs and UAP have close encounters with morning coffee. |
| 0:08.3 | Grab a fresh mug and enjoy our steaming hot takes on this month's book that deals with anomalous phenomena. |
| 0:15.6 | Brand new, classic, and often controversial. |
| 0:19.2 | We talk about the ideas and we read between the lines. Now here's |
| 0:24.1 | Bryce Zabel in Hollywood and Chrissy Newton in Toronto. Hey everybody. Welcome back to episode three of |
| 0:30.4 | Project Book Club. And we've been so far read two autobiographies that have been really unbelievable, one that was |
| 0:38.9 | based in written by somebody, Roth Blumenthal, a New York Times journalist who wrote about |
| 0:44.2 | John Mack. And then on our second episode, if you did watch that, we got into Lou Elizondo's |
| 0:49.5 | book, In a minute. So, Bryce, what book are we talking about this time around? |
| 0:56.9 | Well, we're doing, by the way, here's looking at you. |
| 0:59.9 | Always got to show the colors, the flying colors. |
| 1:02.6 | Now, you don't have them right now, though, because I bet it. |
| 1:03.1 | Oh, you do. |
| 1:04.6 | But I have something better. |
| 1:07.5 | Not better, but I would say just in substitute. |
| 1:09.0 | I have an Aladdin cup. |
| 1:13.8 | What could be better than a project book Club cup? And by the way, |
| 1:20.5 | I heard you almost say Project Blue Book, which I did in our first episode. So we were too clever by half with our title, I think. But it's great to see you. And I can only say that doesn't look like your |
| 1:26.2 | office. So you are not in your office, |
| 1:28.8 | and you may not even be in Toronto. |
| 1:30.5 | What's going on? |
| 1:31.6 | No, I'm not. |
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