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Modern Love

Encore: When Two Open Marriages Collide

Modern Love

The New York Times

Love, New York Times, Nytimes, Essay, Loss, Storytelling, Society & Culture, Redemption, Nyt

4.39K Ratings

🗓️ 23 November 2022

⏱️ 21 minutes

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Summary

What are the boundaries of an open marriage? What happens to them when your wife’s boyfriend has an accident that puts him in a coma? And what do you tell the kids? Today, we’re revisiting Wayne Scott’s story about his open marriage — and a motorcycle accident that tested its boundaries. Then, we hear from Wayne and his wife, Elizabeth Thielman, about the dynamics of their “creative arrangement” and how their relationship has evolved in the years since.

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0:00.0

Love now and you fall in love.

0:06.0

Love is stronger than anything.

0:09.0

You feel the love?

0:10.0

Love.

0:11.0

And I love you more than anything.

0:13.0

You're too hot.

0:15.0

From the New York Times, I'm Anna Martin.

0:18.0

And I'm Dan Jones.

0:19.0

And this is Modern Love.

0:23.0

So Dan, you're the founding editor of Modern Love.

0:26.0

You've worked on countless love stories.

0:29.0

Today we're listening to one of your favorites, which we published in 2021.

0:33.0

It's about an open marriage.

0:35.0

What about this essay stands out to you?

0:39.0

Well, this essay begins with a real crisis that puts this unconventional relationship and marriage to a stress test.

0:50.0

And I just, I love how this couple responds through kind of open-mindedness by going off script, by leading with kindness and love.

1:02.0

And it made me feel like I wanted to live my life more truthfully and without sort of guardrails in a way.

1:10.0

The essay is called Two Open Marriages in One Small Room, written by Wayne Scott and read by Eduardo Balarini.

1:21.0

I want to see the body.

1:23.0

Said my 12-year-old son, Miles.

1:26.0

He and I were sitting in our minivan outside of the hospital.

1:30.0

Miles, it's not the body, I said.

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