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American Scandal

Wondery

True Crime, Exhibit C, Society & Culture, History, Documentary, History Daily, American History Tellers, Lindsay Graham

4.6 • 18.7K Ratings

🗓️ 7 February 2023

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Historian William Jones explains how police unions shape law enforcement in America, while potentially shielding officers from accusations of misconduct.

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0:00.0	Hey, Prime Members, you can listen to American Scandal
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0:07.0	Music
0:19.0	From Wondering, I'm Lindsey Graham and this is American Scandal.
0:42.0	John Burge had an outsized reputation among Chicago police.
0:46.0	As a commander of the Chicago PD, Burge won a claim for bringing violent criminals to justice and solving some of the most challenging cases.
0:54.0	But underneath the public praise and commendations was a devastating secret.
0:59.0	For two decades, Burge and his allies in the Chicago PD had tortured black citizens in an effort to extract criminal confessions.
1:07.0	Burge would eventually face justice himself.
1:10.0	In 2011, he was sentenced to four and a half years in prison after lying under oath about his role in torturing suspected criminals.
1:18.0	And while Burge's conviction came as a relief to some of his victims, it also renewed a fierce debate about police brutality and the challenges of holding officers accountable for their crimes.
1:29.0	It's a debate that's resurfaced in the last few years in the aftermath of several high-profile cases of police misconduct.
1:36.0	My guest today is William Jones, historian at the University of Minnesota, who focuses on issues of civil rights and unions.
1:43.0	Jones is the author of the books, The March on Washington, and The Tribe of Black Ulysses.
1:48.0	He's also the director of the Police Unions and Police Violence Project at the Labor and Work Life Program at Harvard Law School.
1:56.0	In our conversation, we'll discuss the large role that police unions play in shaping law enforcement across the country, and how police unions potentially shield officers from accusations of misconduct, and how cities are responding to widespread demands for reform.
2:11.0	Our conversation is next.
2:14.0	13 years ago, in one of the cramped dorm rooms of prestigious Seralorans College, a nightmare unfolded.
2:25.0	The students didn't know it yet, but when a bizarre new roommate moved in, he would change their lives forever.
2:31.0	Devil in the dorm, an exclusive new podcast on Wondery Plus, dives into the horrifying story of Larry Ray, who moved into the dorms with his daughter.
2:40.0	Shortly thereafter, he started to control, manipulate, and brainwash some of the students.
2:45.0	And before long, Ray had amassed what could be best described as a small cult following.
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