From Wundery, I'm Matt Ford.

And I'm Matt Ford.

And I'm Alice Levine.

And this is British scandal. So Alice that's it for the extraordinary story of the Hitler

Diaries hoax and I still can't believe how basically everyone in the

story wants to push ahead with the publication of these things,

even though it was so obvious that they were fake.

Yeah, this could have just been a bizarre moment of opportunistic greed, but actually it was this incredible

watershed moment which put public trust in the press into question and that idea

that journalists will do anything for the scoop is perfectly crystallized here.

Yes and not just at tabloids like the Sun and the News of the world, but at reputable broadsheets like the Sunday times.

Yes, I was starting to worry because we haven't mentioned our old friend Murdoch in at least five minutes he was of course at the helm showing that truth was a definite second priority to getting those papers sold.

Yes and it sold a lot of papers and someone joining us today knows a lot about selling

a lot of books.

Robert Harris, one of the UK's most successful novelists, also wrote the most comprehensive

retelling of the hoax. His book selling Hitler

remains the definitive account of the Hitler diary scandal and he joins us next.

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Robert, when did you first learn of the diary's existence?

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