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My name is Stu Showerman and I am the founder and CEO of No Before. I started a software service company for non-profits like Greenpeace with four friends of mine.

That was my first startup.

This is the current one is the fifth.

And I had to train myself.

I had to learn sales, I had to learn marketing,

learn computing, and that was the learn marketing, learn computing.

And that was the first one, really.

We sold that, and I started a little training company that did training for first time computer users through a little audio

cassette that you plugged into the cassette player, click play and then it said what you had to do.

It's a forerunner of no before. Well, I hopped over to system utilities for many computers.

to system utilities for many computers and we were selling to the system administrators who had as their job to keep the network and the systems up and

running learned an incredible amount. to keep the network and the systems up and running.

Learned an incredible amount.

And then we started a company called Sunbelt software

and we were selling system management tools

for the new Windows operating system that was mid-95.

And they badly needed security tools, so that's how I got into the Infosec side of the business. What I like about what we do today is that it's a win-win game, as opposed to a zero-sum game. Zero-sum game, there's no final

plus there's somebody wins or somebody who loses. In our case the employees in our customers win all the no

before employees win our investors win and the only ones you could say who are not happy with us are the bad guys but that's what we do for a living.

We essentially train a human firewall, keep employees able to make smarter security decisions every day and make sure that they don't click on bad links or open attachments and let the bad guys into the network.

If you could predict the future, you'd be so ahead of anyone else.

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