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My name is Sal Aura Jema. My name is Sal Ara Jema.

I'm an associate professor of computer information systems at the University of Tulsa.

I've always been interested in how things work even when I was in high school and computers came around and I think I was a sophomore or a junior in high school when my high school got the first computer lab and they were teaching us basic and I think the first thing I did was, you know, write one of those adventure type text-based programs where, you know, you choose A or B if you want to run away if you want to fight

the dragon and die, that kind of thing.

And it was fun for the game, but then trying to figure out how the computer worked and how it did stuff has always

interested me so you know when I went to college I ended up getting a nuclear

engineering degree and and it was one of those things kind of like with

cybersecurity I never planned on liking nuclear

engineering or cyber security but something peaked my interest and Chernobyl

actually peaked my interest before I went into college I read about it and I was like, wow, I'd like to know more about how

nuclear power works, and next thing you know, I was silly enough to go get a degree in it.

Then once I got my degree in nuclear engineering from University of Florida,

I ended up going into the Navy as a submarine officer

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