Walter Isakson set out to write about a world-changing genius in Elon Musk and found a man addicted to chaos and conspiracy.

I'm thinking it's idiotic to buy Twitter because he doesn't have a fingertip feel for social emotional networks.

The book launched a thousand hot takes,

so I sat down with Isakson to try to get past the noise.

I like the fact that people who say I'm not as tough on Musk

as I should be are always using anecdotes for my book to show why we should be tough on Musk.

Join me, Evan Ratliff, for On Musk with Walter Isickson.

Listen on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Tune in to the new podcast, Stories from the Village of Nothing Much.

Like Easy Listening, but for fiction.

If you've overdosed on bad news, we invite you into a world where the glimmers of goodness

in everyday life are all around you.

I'm Catherine Nikolai, and I'm an architect of Cozy.

Come spend some time where everyone is welcome and the default is kindness.

Listen, relax, enjoy. Listen to stories from the Village of Nothing Much,

on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts,

or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Lori Gottlieb. I'm the author of maybe you should talk to someone and I write the

Dear therapist advice column for The Atlantic. And I'm Guy Wench. I'm the author of Emotional First Aid and I write the

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changes they've made in their lives. So sit back and welcome to today's session.

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