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Jamila, it's this going to be me and you and everyone will be listening.

Okay.

Ready? This is don't ask TIG. I'm TIG Notaro.

We are not alone and nobody is hopeless. Here today is Jamila Jamil. You've seen her on The Good Place and she has her own

podcast, I Way. Hi Jamila. Hello, how are you? I'm good. Thank you so much for coming today.

No, I'm a massive fan and beg friend, so I, uh, the pleasure and honor is all mine.

Oh well the feeling is mutual and I think that there's going to be a lot of people

thrilled that you're making an appearance on here.

You very famously got your role on the good place

with almost no acting experience. Would you say that takes a lot of confidence?

What does that take? I think it takes shamelessness. I think it takes my fundamental belief system of thinking that failure is cool and I have had this belief system for like 15 years where I just think the only true failure that really exists is not trying at all.

I think when you take a risk on something where success isn't guaranteed, I honestly look at it as a heroic act.

I like your style.

And do you have any advice for people that might be wanting to take a big leap to do that sort of maybe

their own version of what you've done?

Yeah, I think it's really important to just look at life as one giant ticket bucket, you know, really we get one shot at this not to quote M&M for too much of this

but I think that it's really important to remember that fear should never navigate any of your decisions in life.

It's really important that you don't let it do so and it's really important that you don't allow

the fear and projections of other people to navigate your decisions because a lot of people are just fear-mongering us because either they're afraid for us or they have put too much importance

upon the shame of failure or they don't want to see you succeed

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