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🗓️ 29 April 2025
⏱️ 47 minutes
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Edward Snowden lands a job with the NSA. But when he stumbles on a shocking government secret, Snowden has to face a moral dilemma.
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0:22.0 | A listener note, |
0:39.1 | this episode previously aired in 2022. It's June 3rd, 2013. |
0:43.0 | Edward Snowden is sitting in a hotel room in Hong Kong. |
0:46.2 | He keeps glancing at the door, his nerves racked. |
0:50.4 | Over and over, Snowden replays the same haunting image in his mind, |
0:52.7 | a swatim kicking down the door, |
0:55.7 | agents shoving him to the ground and laying cold handcuffs on his wrists. Snowden can imagine the police hauling him away and shoving him in a jail |
1:01.3 | cell where he'll spend the rest of his life a prisoner for trying to do the right thing. |
1:06.4 | It's a terrifying vision, and the longer Snowden entertains this nightmare, the more he can feel |
1:11.6 | anxiety creeping up inside him, threatening to swallow him whole. So Snowden stops himself, |
1:17.8 | takes a deep breath. He has to stop fretting. He has to focus on the present, because right now |
1:23.1 | he's giving the most important interview of his life. And if he doesn't stay clear-headed, |
1:28.1 | no one will understand the full story |
1:30.0 | and why America has to learn the truth about its government. |
1:37.9 | Snowden exhales and looks back up at Glenn Greenwald, |
1:41.4 | a reporter for The Guardian. |
1:43.2 | For hours, the two men have been talking about |
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