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🗓️ 13 May 2025
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Edward Snowden tries to flee to Ecuador. But the Obama administration counters with a surprise move, leaving Snowden trapped in Russia.
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0:21.3 | A listener note, this episode previously aired in 2022. |
0:36.9 | It's late June 2013. |
0:40.1 | In a working-class neighborhood in Hong Kong, a siren wails, as a police car comes roaring down the street, the car turns a corner, and as it passes by a row of worn-down apartments, Edward Snowden holds his breath. |
0:53.3 | Snowden watches from the entryway of one of the apartments, as the police car heads down the |
0:57.5 | block, and when it's finally out of sight, Snowden breathes a sigh of relief. |
1:02.2 | The police haven't found him, not yet. |
1:05.1 | Snowden steps back out into the street and looks both ways. |
1:08.5 | The coast seems to be clear, and while no one would suspect he's been |
1:11.9 | hiding out in one of the poorest neighborhoods in Hong Kong, Snowden still knows he has to be careful. |
1:19.0 | By now, Snowden has become one of the most famous people in the world. He's the subject of an |
1:24.6 | international manhunt, and the United States government is doing everything it can to capture him and send them back home, where he'll face charges of treason under the Espionage Act. |
1:34.4 | Snowden never had any illusion about the danger he was bound to face. |
1:38.3 | Just days ago, he met with a group of journalists in Hong Kong and blew the whistle on the U.S. government. |
1:44.5 | Snowden revealed that the National Security Agency was spying on American citizens |
1:48.6 | and gathering an unthinkable amount of private data, from phone calls to emails to other online activity. |
1:55.5 | The revelations immediately caused an international uproar. People across the world began debating the trade-offs between |
2:02.1 | privacy and national security. And while many believe Snowden is heroic, others, including the |
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