ENCORE: Beyond Meat vs Impossible Burger | Beefing Up, Chowing Down | 3
Business Wars
Wondery
4.6 • 13.2K Ratings
🗓️ 7 January 2026
⏱️ 32 minutes
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Summary
It’s 2019 and plant-based meats are on fire. But they’re also under fire. Supporters of the beef industry start a food fight with the plant-based meat industry. It kicks off on Super Bowl Sunday, with an aggressive TV ad. But Pat Brown’s Impossible Foods fights back with an ad of its own. Meanwhile, Ethan Brown pushes Beyond Meat to grow at all costs. As debts mount, Ethan tries to get the king of burgers, McDonald’s, to bite on a new plant-based patty. And, as the heat turns up at both companies due to pandemic-induced demand for their products, some employees get queasy about their company’s founders.
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| 0:00.0 | This series originally aired in 2024. |
| 0:10.7 | It's a warm summer's day, 2019, in Redwood City, California. |
| 0:15.8 | Inside a brightly lit conference room at Impossible Foods headquarters, a sweaty Pat |
| 0:20.7 | Brown tugs at the collar of his |
| 0:22.3 | t-shirt. It's emblazoned with a no-cows logo. Pat, the biochem professor, who is this company's |
| 0:30.0 | founder, isn't just hot. He's bored. He and a team of executives are attending an employee review. |
| 0:37.1 | The executives want to promote some |
| 0:38.7 | employees who have been working hard to get the impossible burger into grocery stores for the first time. |
| 0:44.3 | But Pat just wants to get back to his research. Hey, let's move this along. We have a lot of work |
| 0:50.2 | to do in the lab that's more important than yammering about job titles. Pat's outburst |
| 0:55.2 | momentarily silences the meeting's leader. He's Dennis Woodside, a square-jawed gray-haired |
| 1:01.0 | middle-aged attorney turned executive who left his job as chief operating officer at Dropbox |
| 1:06.2 | to become president of Impossible Foods and ramp up the company's operations ahead of its grocery |
| 1:11.6 | store debut. Woodside glares at Pat. |
| 1:15.2 | I'm sorry, Pat, but this management stuff is important, too. We've got ten people who've done a |
| 1:20.3 | great job here and need to be recognized with raises and new titles. But why do we need |
| 1:25.0 | tiered titles at all? That's how IBM does things. We're not IBM. |
| 1:29.7 | No, we're not IBM, but we can still be a professional organization. I mean, just look at the |
| 1:35.3 | working title you chose for this year's annual report. That's not exactly what IBM would choose. |
| 1:41.2 | A wry smile comes across Pat's face. I love that title. |
| 1:45.2 | The meat industry. And that's exactly what we're trying to do here. We're on a mission to push |
| 1:50.7 | the beef industry into a death spiral. And after we do that, we'll tell pork and chicken that |
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