4.3 • 11.5K Ratings
🗓️ 25 May 2021
⏱️ 31 minutes
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From Lemonade to The Gift, Beyoncé Knowles-Carter keeps finding ways to turn her personal struggles into chart-topping hits. On this episode, we talk to Jill Hopkins, host of the “Making Beyoncé” podcast about what makes Bey the blueprint for the industry, how she took full advantage of the “going-out top,” and what the American Dream looks like to a Black girl from Houston, Texas.
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0:00.0 | Wundery Plus subscribers can binge the newest season of even the rich before anyone else. |
0:04.4 | Join Wondery Plus in the Wondery app I'm Brooke Ziffran, and I'm Arisha Skidmore Williams. |
0:25.0 | And this is even the rich. |
0:27.0 | Over the last four episodes, we've been singing to you about the rise and rise and rise of Jay-Z and Beyonc. They made music and babies. They |
0:38.2 | started businesses and became billionaires. And they never gave up on their marriage even when the going got tough. |
0:46.0 | We covered so much Brooke, but I'm still left with this question. |
0:50.0 | Is there anything Jay and Beyoncé can't do? |
0:52.0 | That's why I wanted to talk to Zach O'Malley Greenberg. |
0:55.0 | He's a senior editor at Forbes magazine, |
0:57.0 | and he's also the author of Empire State of Mind, |
1:00.0 | how Jay-Z went from Street Corner to Corner Office. |
1:02.0 | It's a book we relied on while we were researching this series. Jay-Z went from Street Corner to Corner Office. |
1:02.8 | It's a book we relied on while we were researching this series. |
1:05.8 | And Zach leaves no stone unturned. |
1:08.7 | Like you know how we talked about the champagne label J-Bot? |
1:13.5 | Yeah, of course. |
1:14.5 | Well, Zach actually went to France to see the sellers with his own two eyes. |
1:18.8 | Oh my God, jealous. |
1:20.4 | Yeah, same. |
1:21.1 | We had a great conversation about what Jay-Z and Beyonce learned from each other in order to grow their empires together. |
1:27.0 | We also talked about how in the last few years the two of them have emerged as leading advocates in the fight for social justice. |
1:33.6 | And can I just say, as a woman of color, |
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