Enchantment in a Disenchanted Age (Dr. Martin Shaw) | Ep. 570

Pints With Aquinas

Matt Fradd

Education, Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.8 • 7K Ratings

🗓️ 16 March 2026

⏱️ 109 minutes

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Martin Shaw is a mythologist, storyteller, and New York Times bestselling author of Liturgies of the Wild: Myths That Make Us. Together, Matt and Martin discuss the power of fairy tales, the need for a quest, and a profound 101 night vigil in the woods that lead Shaw to Christianity. Whisky and cigars included. Ep. 570 - - - 📚 More About Dr. Martin Shaw: Liturgies of the Wild: Myths That Make Us: https://a.co/d/03ZWk5Qg Learn More: https://drmartinshaw.com Dr. Martin Shaw is a writer, mythographer, and Christian thinker who has authored seventeen books. He holds a visiting position at the Faculty of Divinity at Cambridge University and is a fellow of the Temenos Academy. He founded the Oral Tradition and Mythic Life courses at Stanford University and is director of the Westcountry School of Myth in the UK. For thirty years Shaw has been a wilderness rites-of-passage guide, working with men and women seeking a deeper life. - - - Today's Sponsors: Seven Weeks Coffee - Save up to 25% with promo code 'PINTS' at https://sevenweekscoffee.com/PINTS Good Ranchers - Get $25 off your first order and FREE meat for life when you use code PINTS at https://GoodRanchers.com Catholic Match - Download the app or head to https://CatholicMatch.com and find your forever. St. Paul Center - Share your faith with others this Easter Season by joining the Easter Accompaniment Challenge. Sign up and become a member today at https://stpaulcenter.com/pints Charity Mobile - Visit https://charitymobile.com/MATTFRADD to get started. - - - Become a Daily Wire Member and watch all of our content ad-free: ⁠⁠https://www.dailywire.com/subscribe⁠⁠ 📲 Download the free Daily Wire app today on iPhone, Android, Roku, Apple TV, Samsung, and more. - - - 📕 Get my newest book, Jesus Our Refuge, here: https://a.co/d/bDU0xLb 🍺 Want to Support Pints With Aquinas? 🍺 Get episodes a week early and join exclusive live streams with me! Become an annual supporter at 👉 ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://mattfradd.locals.com/support⁠⁠⁠⁠ - - - 💻 Follow Me on Social Media: 📌 Facebook: https://facebook.com/mattfradd 📸 Instagram: https://instagram.com/mattfradd 𝕏 Twitter/X: ⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/Pints_W_Aquinas⁠⁠⁠ 🎵 TikTok: ⁠⁠⁠https://tiktok.com/@pintswithaquinas⁠⁠⁠ 📚 PWA Merch – ⁠⁠⁠https://dwplus.shop/MattFraddMerch⁠⁠ 👕 Grab your favorite PWA gear here: https://shop.pintswithaquinas.com - - - Privacy Policy: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.dailywire.com/privacy⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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1:06.1	And usually those stories, those narratives are trying to tell you that you're not quite enough.
1:14.2	I meet a lot of people that don't seem to be on any kind of quest anymore. There seems to be no quest.
1:15.5	We've always had rites of passage.
1:17.6	There is a point where it is a very oddly normative thing to do to go out and wrestle
1:23.2	death as a teenager.
1:24.7	But that would be four days and nights on a mountaintop. That would be stalking a
1:29.9	leopard and stealing one of its whiskers. Now the problem is that primordial ambition still lives
1:36.4	in kids and it's meant to. It seems that God is a phenomenal storyteller. Everywhere we have evidence
1:43.9	that beauty matters.
1:45.0	And I think that that is part of why in such disassociative times
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