Welcome to the Daily Stoic Podcast, designed to help bring those four key stoic virtues, courage, discipline, justice, and wisdom into the real world.

Hey, it's Ryan. Welcome to another episode of the Daily Stoic Podcast. It's funny. Just a couple years ago, there was this whole sort of resurgence and sort of

discussion about empathy, the power of empathy and vulnerability and connection.

I think Bray Brown is obviously a big proponent of this, out-popularized it.

And then naturally, there's going to be a backlash.

There's always, always the swinging of the pendulum.

But I think we're definitely going too far in the other direction these days, this backlash.

Actually, when I was on The Daily Show, I was asked about this very idea. This is what I said.

I think so many men in particular are drawn to Daily Stoic. As a man myself who really enjoys your books and your YouTube and your

Instagram, I see men in leadership positions now and I don't connect. I see our current administration.

I see a lot of the podcasters. And I think it's hard for me to connect with them. I don't feel

like those are the men I want to be. It doesn't seem like a healthy balance.

Elon Musk, this brilliant, brilliant man,

and now it seems like he's a cautionary tale to men.

How do you feel that so many men are, you know,

you are their stoic?

Or how would the stoics advise you to be in this position?

Yeah, I feel like I'm one of the few male influencer types that did not become

radicalized or red-pilled.

So, like, Stoicism is not supposed to make you a better sociopath or a bigger asshole.

That's not what this is.

That's not what this is. That's the ethical component. Yeah. Right. I think Elon Musk was on Joe Rogan and he said,

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