Hi, my name is Pete Scuzaro.

What a welcome today, the Emotionally Healthy Leader Podcast.

Very excited about today's topic.

It's called Emotionally Healthy Hiring, Paid, or Volunteer.

Emotionally Healthy Hiring, Paid, or Volunte or volunteer it is perhaps the most

difficult part of serving as a leader especially in a church setting but it also

applies of course to nonprofit leaders and marketplace leaders and I know for me

it's definitely was one of the most challenging parts of

my long history of pastoring and leading a church. And now, the reason we hire people,

or even empower a volunteer, is we want to multiply ourselves. We want to expand our influence.

We could just do it all ourselves. But again, part of leadership is

expanding and multiplying ourselves and our influence. So what happens often is we hire someone,

we put someone in a position, and we're all excited. We're overjoyed. We say, oh, what a breakthrough.

But then over time, we realize, hmm, this isn't working out. And then we find ourselves thinking, how am I going to end this?

Then that's often a long process, often very messy.

Rarely is it not messy.

And then after all the fallout of that, we have to start the process all over again. The temptation to cut corners

is enormous. And now what's interesting is churches are in a process of rebuilding as churches

are now gathering again around the world to meet together on weekends. And so people are

desperately building new teams and staffs. And folks are very afraid of falling behind because I don't get a new

whatever, children's pastor or youth pastor or whatever or leader,

as soon as possible, families or people might start leaving the church.

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