Summary
If you never made your FB profile picture that “I made you a cookie, but I eated it :(“ meme in 2008, were you even living? In this episode, Hannah and Maia recall the long lost emo subculture - which took the world by storm in the mid aughts and fell quickly into obscurity thereafter. Emo emerged as a musical non-genre from the DIY hardcore punk scenes of San Fran and Detroit, and two decades later it would transform into completely unrecognizable pop punk radio hits resounding in every mall you ever walked into. But thanks to the no-holds-barred, cost-effective utopias that were MySpace and LiveJournal, it seemed the emo subculture was stronger than ever - as socially-anxious teens bonded over their love for Pete Wentz and their own self-loathing. What could possibly go wrong? Are subcultures a form of teenage sovereignty? And do we have Twilight because of 9/11? Listen, for these pressing questions and more. Tangents include: Hannah’s parents’ perfect marriage, Orson Welles vs. Woody Allen beef, and Maia’s online relationship with Gerard Way.
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SOURCES:
Peter C. Baker, “When Emo Conquered the Mainstream” New Yorker (2023).
Tom Connick, “The beginner’s guide to the evolution of emo” NME (2018).
M. Douglas Daschuk, “Messageboard Confessional: Online Discourse and the Production of the "Emo Kid"” Berkeley Journal of Sociology, Vol. 54, Knowledge Production and Expertise (2010).
Judith May Fathallah, Emo: How Fans Defined a Subculture, University of Iowa Press (2020).
Andy Greenwald, Nothing Feels Good: Punk Rock, Teenagers, and Emo, St. Martin’s Publishing (2003).
Rosemary Overell, “Emo online: networks of sociality/networks of exclusion,” Perfect Beat (2011).
Dan Ozzi, Sellout: The Major Label Feeding Frenzy That Swept Punk, Emo, and Hardcore, Mariner (2021).
Carla Zdanow and Bianca Wright, The Representation of Self Injury and S*icide on Emo Social Networking Groups” African Sociological Review, Vol. 16, No. 2 (2012).
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| 0:00.0 | I think I'll try defying gravity. |
| 0:05.9 | Okay, I'm really against buskers having amps. |
| 0:08.9 | And I know that's probably controversial. |
| 0:11.3 | But I'm like, if you have an amp in a subway station, please God, stop. |
| 0:15.4 | This girl had an amp and she was like singing, defying gravity. |
| 0:19.0 | It was good for her. |
| 0:20.5 | Honestly amazing. I'm like walking into the station and hearing good for her. Honestly amazing. |
| 0:21.5 | Like walking into the station and hearing, |
| 0:23.3 | I think I'll try defining gravity with like full music theater voice. |
| 0:29.0 | You were like, damn, I'm in New York. |
| 0:31.3 | This is a real New York moment, Broadway. |
| 0:34.3 | Yeah. |
| 0:34.6 | I filmed myself being like, hey guys, just feeling so blessed right now. |
| 0:40.2 | Anyways, I just woke up. Hannah dragged my ass out of bed to deliver to you guys this episode. |
| 0:47.1 | This is so hard for us. We're on a six-hour time difference and I've never felt more distant from my wife. |
| 0:53.2 | No, my wife. Yeah, if you want to know how hard this is for us, our nomadic lifestyles, we already |
| 0:59.9 | recorded the beginning of this episode and had to stop because the Wi-Fi was so bad, |
| 1:06.6 | where either I was or Hannah was, and it's likely where Hannah was. I think it's where I was. |
| 1:10.9 | I was in a Paris, Airbnb, and our Wi-Fi was really bad. |
| 1:15.7 | And so we tried to record and it just didn't work out. |
| 1:20.6 | But I think that that's what the universe wanted. |
| 1:22.8 | They wanted it to be here and now. |
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