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One by Willie

Emmylou Harris on "Till I Gain Control Again" (special Willie's birthday episode)

One by Willie

John Spong

Willie Nelson, Music, Music History, Music Commentary, Guitar, Spong, Music Interviews, Society & Culture, Austin, Texas Monthly, Country Music, Arts, Americana, Songwriting, Outlaw Country

4.6898 Ratings

🗓️ 22 April 2026

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

In another of our annual, Icon-on-Icon birthday tributes to Willie, 14-time Grammy winner and Country Hall of Famer Emmylou Harris talks about a song she sang every night with him when they toured together in the 70s, “Till I Gain Control Again.” It was, of course, written by one of her and Willie’s all-time favorite songwriters, Rodney Crowell, and it gets Emmy thinking about being a young artist watching the deep, almost spiritual connection Willie forms with his fans—plus the way she and Willie had to swim against the Nashville tide to pull country music back to its roots, the day Elvis died, the making of Teatro…and the death-defying, high-wire act of trying to sing harmony with Willie Nelson.

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0:51.6

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1:02.9

Hey there, I'm John Spong, and this is One by Willie, a podcast in which I talk each week to one notable Willie Nelson fan about one Willie song that they really love.

1:08.0

This week, we celebrate Willie turning 93 with another one of our special

1:12.5

icon-on-Icon birthday tributes. This time, we've got 14-time Grammy winner, Country Music

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Hall of Famer, Emmy Lou Harris, who will talk about a song she used to sing every night with

1:24.2

Willie when their bands toured together in the 70s till I gain control again.

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It was, of course, written by an all-time favorite songwriter of both Emmy Lou and Willie,

1:34.7

Rodney Crowell, who was also in Emmy's band back in those days, and it gets her thinking

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about being a young artist witnessing the deep, almost spiritual connection that Willie fords with his

1:44.6

fans, and the way that she and Willie, and her old producer Brian Ahern, worked to reintroduce

1:50.9

country music to its roots back in the 70s. All that, plus the day that Elvis died, the

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