I've just got to the point in my life where I'm like, you know what, if I am putting in 10, and I am in my pursuit of excellence, and I am happy with what I'm doing, that's all right. And I might not please my husband all the time, and I might not please my kids all the time, and it might, like, piss somebody off that I say something. But I was doing my best, and you can lay your head on the pillow at night, and you can be like, that was excellent. But perfection, that's just like, that's a fool's game.

That's a fool's errand.

Yeah. doing my best and you can lay your head on the pillow at night and you can be like that's excellent but perfection that's just like that's a fool's game that's a fool's errand yeah and

I'm just not part of it I will I refuse to play the perfection game yeah super damaging for women

Emma Emma, welcome to reclaiming.

Thank you so much for having me, Monica.

I'm really happy to be here.

Oh, thank you.

I'm really happy to have you, especially because I have this banana story, which is that about four months ago, I was at the

Air One near the Grove, which you must know living in L.A. Although that probably is not your

Air One. That's not my Air One, but you know, look, I feel all Air One's are my Air One.

So I was treating myself to a bigillion dollar smoothie.

And when it was ready, and I went to get it, the lady who was making my smoothie said to me, I love your podcast.

And I was just so touched. And I asked her, I said, well, who would you want to see on?

And she said, Emma Greed and Melody Hobson. What, what? Exactly. To be in the same way. To be in the same breath. Well, I have to tell you, Melody was the first ever guest on my podcast. Yes. So she's someone that I, I don't know if you, did you speak to her? Have know. She is on my list and we have a mutual, she's a mutual friend. She's magical. I find her, even though I've never met her, I'm intimidated, so I haven't gotten up the courage to invite her on. But she's been on the list since the beginning. So, yeah, so it was just great.

So I was saying to the woman, I said, oh, well, we're already in talks with Emma and

melodies on my list.

So I'm actually going to dedicate this episode to my smoothie maker.

What a joy.

So I'm just, this is just such a treat to get to talk to you, especially about your new book.

Thank you.

Start with yourself.

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