Hey everyone, it's Danielle. We're so excited for you to listen to today's episode and it's actually our last one for the season.

We're going on a quick break for the rest of the summer, but we'll be back in your feed again in September with all new guests. So stay tuned.

All right, now let's get into this episode with Emily Tish Susman.

I had this vision of how I was going right back to work and now I had a two-year-old, three-year-old, and three-week-old with no support system around me.

And without child care, I had no brain. And I was going to a high-stakes election where I knew that I would be good at it, and I could not do it.

And that was so frustrating like it didn't just kind of kill my professional opportunities, it killed my sense of self.

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All right, let's get into it.

Today, our guest is Emily Tish Susman. Emily is a podcast host, a women's empowerment and family policy advocate, and a political strategist.

She spent over 15 years working in democratic politics, starting her political career on John Kerry's presidential campaign, and later becoming the vice president of campaigns for the center for American progress.

Now she's the host of the She Pivots podcast where she's interviewed everyone from vice president Kamala Harris to Priyanka Chopra.

And she also recently served as a senior advisor for paid leave US. Emily, welcome to 9-5-ish.

Thank you. This is besides She Pivots, of course, this is my favorite podcast. So I'm very excited to be here.

We are very excited to have you. So we like to start all shows with our lightning round where we ask you very difficult questions, and we'll see how you do. Are you ready?

What is the first job you ever got paid for? I think it's probably oh, no, it wasn't the Kerry campaign. It was a camp counselor.

I was a camp counselor. I just sleep away camp.

I feel like you would be a very good counselor.

I feel like I really take, I appreciate that, and I feel like I've really taken that into every piece of my life. I was the head counselor for 15-year-old girls.

You also organized a summer camp for our children last year that was billed to me as like just, you know, it'll be really casual.

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