“This year, with all the challenges and setbacks, gave me a lot of confidence in that I was still able to come out and deliver and make this team. I have a lot of confidence from experience and just knowing that no matter the circumstances, I'm able to stay focused and get the job done; just focus on myself and what I need to do to be the best runner I can be. That’s where I draw my confidence from.”

My guest for today's episode is Emily Mackay. In the 1500m, the margin between heartbreak and a ticket to the World Championships can be a lean, a lunge, or a fraction of a second. For Emily, it was the last 100m at Hayward Field, stride for stride with her former training partner Heather McLean, both fighting for the third and final spot to Tokyo. Mackay pulled ahead in that final stretch and stopped the clock at 4:04.38 for third place behind Nikki Hiltz and Sinclaire Johnson and secured her place on Team USA for Tokyo.

It's been less than a year since Mackay qualified for her first Olympics — a breakout 2024 season that saw her win World Indoor bronze in Glasgow in the 1500. She went on to run 3:55 to move to #3 all time among Americans and stood on the podium at the U.S. Olympic trials. She also reached the semifinal of the 1500m at the Paris Olympics, but in the months since, She's navigated change and injury.

She parted ways with Team New Balance Boston's training group during the outdoor season and is now coached by Pete Julian. She’s still sponsored by New Balance while living in Boulder, Colorado. In this episode, we talk about the U.S. championships, the transition between training groups, and the confidence it takes to keep climbing in one of the most competitive eras of American distance running.

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Host: Chris Chavez | ⁠⁠@chris_j_chavez on Instagram⁠

Guest: Emily Mackay | @emily_mac7 on Instagram 

Produced by: Jasmine Fehr | ⁠⁠⁠@jasminefehr on Instagram⁠⁠⁠

Mentioned in this episode…

Watch: USATF Championships women’s 1500m final

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