Emily Bell on Journalism in the Platform Era
The Lawfare Podcast
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4.7 • 6.4K Ratings
🗓️ 4 March 2021
⏱️ 53 minutes
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Summary
On this episode of Arbiters of Truth, the Lawfare Podcast’s miniseries on disinformation and misinformation, Evelyn Douek and Quinta Jurecic spoke with Emily Bell, the founding director of the Tow Center for Digital Journalism at Columbia Journalism School. Emily testified before Congress last week about the role of legacy media, and cable news in particular, in spreading disinformation, but she’s also one of the keenest observers of the online news ecosystem and knows a lot about it from her days as director of digital content for The Guardian. They talked about the relationship between online and offline media in spreading disinformation, the role different institutions need to play in fixing what’s broken and whether all the talk about “fighting misinformation” is a bit of a red herring.
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| 0:25.6 | no bull and the aftermath. |
| 0:32.6 | I don't have people actually interact with each other. |
| 0:37.1 | It's connecting people really going to make the world's best place to each other. |
| 0:43.5 | Which is a fundamental mission statement of Facebook. |
| 0:48.0 | We're going to connect people to make the world's best place. |
| 0:51.3 | Which people where? |
| 0:52.3 | How are you going to connect them? |
| 0:53.3 | I mean anyone who spent five minutes in a humanities undergraduate class would say, hey, what's |
| 1:00.3 | it you're talking about here? |
| 1:02.1 | So no, we don't have to solve it. |
| 1:03.4 | We can't solve those problems. |
| 1:05.1 | I think we need to acknowledge them though in the products that we build. |
| 1:09.0 | And in our journalism, we have to acknowledge them in our journalism as well. |
| 1:11.9 | And I think journalism is reckoning with that actually at the same time that Silicon |
| 1:17.6 | Valley is going, maybe actually we shouldn't have designed our products to work in exactly |
| 1:22.6 | the same way. |
| 1:23.6 | I'm Quinta Jurassic and this is the LawFair podcast March 4th, 2021. |
| 1:32.8 | It's another episode of Arbiter's of Truth, the LawFair podcast mini series on disinformation |
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