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Emily Baker-White on ‘The War Over TikTok’

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News, Politics, News Commentary

4.2726 Ratings

🗓️ 13 October 2025

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

A group of American investors, including Silicon Valley allies of President Trump, is expected to take control of TikTok’s U.S. operations from Chinese parent company ByteDance, according to the White House. The video sharing platform has come under heavy bipartisan criticism as a national security risk. We’ll talk to Forbes investigative reporter Emily Baker-White about the proposed deal and what it could mean for TikTok’s millions of users. Baker-White’s new book is “Every Screen On The Planet: The War Over TikTok.” Guests: Emily Baker-White, investigative reporter and senior writer, Forbes Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Welcome to Forum. I'm Mina Kim. If you need a TikTok refresher, it's the addictive video sharing

0:41.5

platform powered by an algorithm that predicts and auto feeds the next video you'd like to see

0:46.8

based on the ones you've just lingered on. And as Forbes investigative reporter Emily Baker-White

0:52.6

tells us, TikTok became more visited than Google in 2021 and amassed more than a billion global users by 2024.

1:01.2

Now, the White House says a group of American investors and allies of the president will take control of TikTok's U.S. operations from its Chinese parent company.

1:10.9

So, listeners, how does that make you feel?

1:13.1

How do you use TikTok?

1:15.3

866733-6786 is the number to call.

1:19.0

Again, 866733-6786.

1:21.8

You can post on our social channels at KQED Forum or email forum at KQED.org.

1:28.3

For more on the deal or what we know about the deal so far,

1:31.6

I'm joined by Emily Baker-White,

1:33.6

whose new book is called Every Screen on the Planet,

1:36.7

The War Over TikTok.

1:38.7

Emily, welcome to Forum.

1:40.3

Thanks so much for having me.

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