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We are closing out 2023 by turning the tables and bringing you an episode where I’m the one that was interviewed, on the Terrain Theory Podcast!  I am really proud of this conversation and the depth of information we cover. It’s one of my best interviews yet!

I share my own origin story of birth-work and my journey to discovering sovereign birth, which I haven’t publicly shared in this way before. I unpack the common mistruths and misunderstandings about sovereign birth beyond the system, we go over the host’s own experience with the birth of his son, and let’s be real - I kind of blow these men’s minds.  They, like most others, were totally unaware of the trauma, abuse, and lies that modern obstetrics are steeped in and how a medwife-attended homebirth is *totally* inviting the system into your home, despite being sold as the best choice for “freedom fighters”. We touch on instinct injury, why I don’t use the word empowerment, and how important women-only gatherings are. 

Here’s what you’ll hear:

✨️My own story of dropping out of high school, moving to LA, diving headfirst into infant massage, and bereavement support for parents whose babies were terminally ill

✨️How I thought I could reform birth-work in the system, and the gaslighting and deep programming I was up against that kept me in the system for 10 years

✨️How a particularly traumatic set of births led me to understanding there was no way to ethically continue birth-work in the system 

✨️The nuance and importance of language and what is a midwife, a medwife, a freebirth, and what it isn't.

✨️I unpack a bit of Ben’s son’s birth and the unnecessary drama their medwife created by her own fear and allegiances to the state 

✨️How engaging in the system is entirely voluntary and we explore women’s healing potential without it

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