Hello, welcome to a special emergency edition of O-God What Now, but for once the emergency

news is good news. I'm Dorian Litsky and joining me are Naomi Smith and Alex Andrey. Kim

Ledbetter is the new Labour MP for Batley and Span following in the footsteps of her sister,

Joe Cox. Alex, the Tories have lost two by elections in a row, they widely predicted

to win. Will Boris Johnson face a leadership challenge?

No, of course not. But seriously, the narrative here, and I'm reflecting, I suppose,

even on what we did in the panel show, is that I think that we didn't talk enough about

Labour actually winning, but the possibility of Labour actually winning, because I think the narrative

was so overwhelmingly that Labour were going to lose whether that was due to George Galloway

or not. And this follows, you know, Cheshire Mennamishin, which is a real upset, like is it?

You know what, I'm actually delighted that we've got Naomi with us today, because I was having

a private sort of little water exchange with Naomi three, four days ago saying I was sensing

something in the water that the narrative had changed a little bit, and Labour had stopped

trying to manage expectations quite so much, and you know, it seemed to be much closer than

everyone thought. And I just could feel in my waters that it had somehow changed. And that was

just before the handcock affair, which then hit, and I think also affected the narrative quite

considerably. Oh, you think it did. You think it did definitely. I do. Yes, yes, I do. I do.

I don't think it had a massive effect, but I do think it had an effect in that all this stuff,

like I've said before in the show, people may not pay attention to the detail, but in general,

stuff that makes people pay attention to politics, it makes them turn that way and look that way

is generally speaking quite good for the party that's not involved in whatever scandal is going on,

and quite bad for the party that is. So it's in a very general way, but yes, I think it does have

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