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The Lawfare Podcast

Emergency Podcast: Former President Trump Indicted in Mar-A-Lago Probe

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4.76.4K Ratings

🗓️ 9 June 2023

⏱️ 72 minutes

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Summary

On June 8, former President Donald Trump announced on Truth Social that he has been indicted in Special Counsel Jack Smith's investigation into the improper removal of classified documents from the White House to Mar-a-Lago. The indictment is currently under seal, but according to news reports, Trump has been indicted on seven counts relating to the improper retention of classified material and conspiracy to obstruct the special counsel investigation. On Friday, June 9, at 5 p.m. ET, Lawfare Editor in Chief Benjamin Wittes, alongside Anna Bower and Lawfare Senior Editors Scott R. Anderson, Stephanie Pell, and Roger Parloff, will discuss what to make of the reported charges, the cases's reported venue, the Classified Information Procedures Act, and more.

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rational security, chatter, law fair no bull, and the aftermath.

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To that, the indictment very clearly makes the case,

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although it's actually a little lighter on supporting evidence or facts as alleged here,

0:42.0

than it is on other points.

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That Trump did this all deliberately.

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He deliberately gathered its information, deliberately took it out of the White House.

0:50.0

I'm Benjamin Widis and this is the LawFair podcast.

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It's an emergency podcast.

0:56.0

On the 23rd, you already know that Donald Trump has been indicted in the Southern District of Florida.

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The indictment was unsealed on Friday in an afternoon, in the afternoon.

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Special counsel Jack Smith made a brief statement at the Justice Department.

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He didn't say anything very surprising.

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He urged everybody to read the indictment.

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We took him up on that and we gathered before a live audience on YouTube and in Zoom to talk it over, joining me in the virtual jungle studio.

1:36.0

LawFair, senior editors Roger Parloff, Scott R. Anderson, and Stephanie Pell, and LawFair contributing.

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I'm not sure what she is right now. She's our Fulton County correspondent who's heading down to Florida to cover the arrangement of Donald Trump for us and a Bauer.

1:58.0

We have spent the afternoon pouring over the indictment, learning stuff about this case, and we are ready to give some preliminary thoughts.

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