I'm Jason Kander and I'm Robbie Gupta and this is majority 54 the podcast that helps Americans who voted for progress convinced those who didn't to join our majority

This is and I guess an emergency pod to talk about the verdict in the Derek Chalvin trial is a chalvin

I never bothered to actually learn how to pronounce his name and I don't think I should start now

But we are joined by our good friend who actually is making a second appearance on majority 54 maybe third right second

But I did get a very cool shout out from y'all last week about not overvaluing ceilings so

I love finding out that my friends actually listen that's that's the best

By the way, it was a shout out where I just gave myself credit for saying something wise like so I don't know how

No, no, but it was it was it was a moment we reached collectively. Yeah, yeah, don as an attorney the founder of the National Voter Protection Fund the CEO of Pine Street strategies

I sought after democratic strategist from a oral to presidential campaigns and a frequent presence on MSNBC

In 2008 he and I were both elected to the Missouri House of Representatives

He from St. Louis and me from Kansas City

He had the distinct displeasure of being my roommate in Jefferson City and remains one of my closest friends

Don Callaway is he also has the distinction of being unlike Ravi and myself who are

Just recovering lawyers don't still is is a lawyer, right?

I mean you still do some lawyer stuff

Yeah, yeah, most of my stuff is in the civil rights universe so

ADA stuff, but yeah back to practicing law

I kind of felt like and I guess this is somewhat pertinent to our discussion today

I kind of felt like any black man with a law degree needs to maintain his law license because

Any hometown is eight minutes and forty six seconds away from being the center of the world, right? And I felt

kind of

neutered

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