Join us on PODSE the world for a very special terrifying breaking news update is former

deputy national security adviser for strategic communications and best friend of the pod, Ben

Rhodes. Thanks so much for doing this man.

Go to be with you Tommy, although a little unsettling.

Yeah, a little unsettling.

So, okay, we wake up this morning and we read in the Washington Post that North Korea has

successfully produced a miniaturized nuclear warhead that can fit inside its missile.

So I think we should talk a little bit about the context here, sort of the key elements

of creating a nuclear weapon.

So we know that they have created nuclear weapons, they've tested them twice last year or

several times previously.

They tested two ICBMs intercontinental ballistic missiles last month.

So we know that they're progressing fast on their rocket technology, their missile technology

and trying to reach further and further into the continental United States.

The steps that we always thought might take some additional time were taking that nuclear

warhead and shrinking it down so they could be placed on the missile and then creating

a nose cone strong enough to survive reentry when it's launched into space and then has

to reenter our atmosphere to then come and hit the United States.

So can you talk about how significant this Washington Post report is and what you made

of it?

Yeah, so you had a good summary there, Tommy.

And what I'd say is a Washington Post report, if true, we obviously don't have access to

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