I don't think from a ratings perspective or a chiching dollar perspective, it makes all that much sense.

It's a political decision. Instead of a second debate, we got two networks airing dueling town halls.

From WNYC in New York, this is on the media. I'm Brook Gladstone. And I'm Bob Garfield.

Holsters took a lot of heat in 2016 when their models predicted

a Trump loss, and it's making them a bit defensive this time around. So in the long run,

you know, Biden should win seven out of eight times. You know, I know we'll probably get more crap

if the one out of eight times comes up, but I can't do anything about that. I think it's the right

forecast. Also, a walkie-talkie-like app that works as a recruitment tool for right-wing malicious.

It's us or tyranny. It's us or failure. It's us or a post-American world. Are you all

hand over? I ain't got nothing to hold me back me back, if it kills me, it kills me.

It's all coming up after this.

So before we get to the show, I want to tell you about some brand new and so timely on the media swag.

Yep, it's that time of year when we remind you how much you need us,

and of course how much we need you. Sometimes we entice you to show your support by hoisting an

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times, wouldn't you say? So now we're asking you to

literally put your money where your mouth is with an on-the-media-branded face mask. We really do need

your support so that we can keep digging into the stories behind the stories, to track how they transform us in the world.

So we aren't always surprised.

Big stakes, right?

That's why we want to keep going.

And yeah, we want you to keep going too.

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