Emergency Episode: Federal Judge Schools California on Gender Policy [424]
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🗓️ 23 December 2025
⏱️ 30 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Bienvenilos. That's California for welcome to this emergency episode of National Reviews. |
| 0:18.1 | Radio Free California podcast. I'm Will Swain, president of the California Policy Center. |
| 0:22.8 | You can find my colleagues and me at California Policy Center.org. One of my colleagues is |
| 0:27.4 | attorney Emily Ray. She's head of our California Justice Center. And she's here to discuss the |
| 0:32.4 | just-announced decision in Mirabelli v. Olson. That's the federal case that pits the state of California against |
| 0:39.2 | just about every parent of a school-aged kid in the state. Emily, what's Mirabelli about and where |
| 0:43.8 | did the judge come down? Well, thanks for having me on, Will. So Mirabella is a lawsuit that was brought a few |
| 0:50.6 | years ago originally by two teachers in the Escondido Union School District, |
| 0:56.5 | a public school, they were teachers at a public school. |
| 1:00.0 | They objected to a school policy that essentially required them to lie to parents if a child |
| 1:07.6 | asked to socially transition their gender in their classroom. And, you know, if a parent |
| 1:13.7 | asked them about it, if a parent point blank went up to them and said, you know, is my child |
| 1:19.0 | transitioning their gender? Under these policies, they had to lie or like otherwise avoid |
| 1:24.6 | answering the question. So they brought suit. Over time, the lawsuit |
| 1:30.4 | kind of morphed into something more. It is no longer just being brought by these two teacher |
| 1:36.3 | plaintiffs. It is a class action, a certified class action, on behalf of both teachers in California |
| 1:42.3 | who object to lying to parents or keeping secrets |
| 1:45.5 | from parents and also the parents who object to being lied to or, you know, having information |
| 1:51.6 | hit from them. So what happened yesterday was, was big. This is a big deal, a monumental decision |
| 1:58.9 | coming out of the Southern District of California. |
| 2:01.7 | This is a federal court. |
| 2:04.2 | And it's Judge Benitez issued this decision, essentially saying that California can't have policies |
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