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This Is Not A Drill with Gavin Esler

Emergency Bulletin - Götterdämmerung: Wagner’s Coup

This Is Not A Drill with Gavin Esler

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🗓️ 24 June 2023

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

The slow-motion breakdown of relations between Wagner boss Yevgeniy Prigozhin and Russia’s military has now accelerated into a fast-forward coup. Wagner mercenaries have taken control of Rostov - a Russian city which houses the headquarters of Russia’s military campaign in Ukraine. And now they are marching on Moscow. A worried Putin has made a national TV address and may even be onboard his special plane fleeing the country. Host Arthur Snell spoke to Doomsday Watch favourite Dr Mike Martin, military expert, academic and former soldier, for an emergency podcast on the latest developments. "These events effectively are the beginning of the end of the war in Ukraine" “Putin will not be the president of Russia in six months’ time” “This is basic 101 on how to run a country - you don’t lose the monopoly of force” Get bonus material from this series plus early access to future releases when you support Doomsday Watch on Patreon: http://www.doomsdaywatch.co.uk Written and presented by Arthur Snell. Produced by Robin Leeburn. Original theme music by Paul Hartnoll – https://www.orbitalofficial.com. Design by James Parrett. Group Editor Andrew Harrison. Doomsday Watch is a Podmasters production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to this special emergency edition of Doomsday Watch, I'm Arthur Snell.

0:27.1

On the night of Friday the 23rd of June, information started to emerge of Wagner Boss

0:33.3

Yevgeny Pregozion, falling out in spectacular fashion with both the Minister of Defence Sergei

0:40.1

Shogu and increasingly with Russian President himself Vladimir Putin.

0:46.2

In the following 12 hours, this seemed to escalate into a full-blown military coup, with

0:52.4

Wagner troops taking Rostov on Don, a city inside Russia that is actually the headquarters

0:59.0

of Russia's military operation in Ukraine.

1:02.6

This is a rapidly evolving situation, but I thought it was worth speaking as quickly as

1:07.8

we could get hold of him to Mike Martin, friend of the podcast, military expert academic

1:13.7

and author of the fantastic book How to Fight a War.

1:17.3

So what follows is an unedited version of my interview with Mike recorded on Saturday

1:22.6

afternoon.

1:23.6

Thanks for listening.

1:29.3

So Mike, let's just put a sort of time stamp on this.

1:31.7

We're talking in the middle of the day on Saturday, at the moment, I think the latest

1:38.0

we know is that the Wagner forces have taken control of Rostov, which is on the Russian

1:45.0

city, of course, and then there's some debate that they might have taken hold of Voronezh

1:50.4

as well, which is further north closer to Moscow.

1:55.7

About halfway to Moscow.

1:57.2

Yeah, so let's take a step back.

2:00.2

For those listeners who aren't familiar, what is Wagner?

2:03.2

Who is this pregozion guy?

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