Welcome to the Commentary Magazine Daily podcast today is Monday, November 30, 2020.

I am John Podhor, it's the editor of Commentary with me as always associate editor Noah Rothman, Hi Noah.

Hi John.

Senior writer Christine Rosen, Hi Christine.

Hi John.

And executive editor Abe Greenwald, Hi Abe.

Hi John.

So we've had some days off for Thanksgiving and a lot happened over that time. We have questions about the theoretical surge in COVID cases accompanied by the actual fact that if you look at the data, then it looks so bad.

And that the data that look bad involve so much increased testing that the numbers, the case numbers are much higher.

But we do not have after the last five or six days and a company in rise in the death toll.

Though we are hearing that there's increased hospitalizations and stuff like that. But as we know, sometimes those reports are weird and fractured and they they they they're not you know they're not sort of systematically statistically valid.

So and we have really good news about the vaccine. Moderna is now applying for emergency application of their vaccine and we already had this with the Pfizer vaccine.

And the Moderna vaccine in particular seems to not only have a great results in terms of vaccination, but it's actually also a treatment for the disease when you have it and is much more readily or easily storeable.

So then the Pfizer vaccine.

So these are all very, this is all very good news.

Anybody want to I mean, so I don't want to be a meal your wrist, but I think Noah and we were looking at this and saying everyone's just been saying, oh, everything is so terrible.

And maybe it's because we live through a genuinely terrible period here in New York, you know, seven months ago.

But we're not seeing the increased case numbers translate into some kind of a nationwide disaster.

Well, we're not seeing increased case numbers since November 25th. There's been a profound decline in the number of cases just working off the New York Times dashboard on Wednesday was the last time I checked who was up the 14 day change was up 46%.

And it is currently at plus 8%.

I just want to chime in because I'm looking at world, I'm an IC decline since November 20th steady decline.

Yeah, I mean, there's 10 days.

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