Hey folks, Scott Weingar here, and this is an M-Crit Wii. On this we, I got on the horn with John St. George.

He is an emergency physician. He is an airway educator. He is the creator of protectedairway.com,

which you should go if you've not seen it, because it's super cool. I will explain what that is in the

interview itself. So this is a reaction to the recently published DAS guidelines on

airway management. We talk a little bit of RSI trial. John reacts to some of the stuff I mentioned

in that Jan U Airway episode. We just kind of wrap about Airway. It'll be fun. You like it.

I like it. It's enjoyable stuff. So let's get right into it. Who are you? And what do you do?

I'm an emergency physician. I'm also an educator. And that's my real passion. I love innovation. So I've been working for many years to design an integrated way to blend digital and physical learning for airway management just because I feel like we don't.

What I would say is I think we're drowning in content, but lacking in the ability to access durable skills.

And I think our mission, my mission has been, how do we bring those two together?

How do we bring the digital space and the physical space together to make learning more accessible?

So that's the protected airway collaborative in a nutshell. That's what we do.

Yeah, and people could find that at a website as well as in-person now, and I'm curious to hear about that.

But when I first came across the protected airway, it blew my mind because it's very different than anything else out there.

And what came to me is this is an experiential project versus just a didactic one. And as soon as you go there, you'll see it's set up very differently. The visuals, the imagery is very different.

But you have an even deeper vision that we had met in person and you had told me about this.

If you had your ideal, you were just given a grant of a million dollars to set this up, what would it look like?

Yeah, so, you know, the original idea was inspired by a visit to the Museum of Modern Art and just walking through an immersive interactive space with my headphones and listening to information about artists and their history and the culture and politics of the time and then this interactive space with my headphones and listening to information about artists and their history

and the culture and politics of the time. And then this interactive space and I looked around

some millions of people wandering around doing the same thing. I thought, wow, like, why don't we

try to adapt this to education? And at the time, I was, I've been teaching an airway course for a

long time, but I just, I kept doing it the same way over and over, and it was a one and done, and then it was people were disappeared, and it just never felt quite right to me.

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