Hey folks, Scott Wangart here and this is an M. Critt's special episode.

I had promised, when I had released my M. Critt Burnout model, that I would shortly afterward

publish an episode I had recorded with the amazing Liz Crowe. Dr. Liz Crowe is now the staff

well-being specialist at the Royal Brisbane and Women's Hospital and she is the host and she

asked me to plug this. So really, it's amazing stuff. She is the co-host of the nursing podcast

five things where they go and talk to actual staff nurses doing the job and get them to talk

about five things about a certain topic. And that podcast is with Jesse Spur, who is also a

smack in Presario and the two of them together have put together an amazing podcast. That will be

in the show notes, but you could just search for five things nursing podcast and you will find it.

So those are the things that she did and she's going to introduce herself more in just a second.

But she is absolutely astounding. She started off as a social worker in a pediatric ICU,

did a PhD in staff and team well-being and now is just a font of information on the issues of

burnout and how staff could actually make work a source of joy. And the beauty of talking to Liz

is you're getting an unfiltered impression of the real thing, not bullshit theory. You're going

to get actual ideas that work. And I just enjoyed this interview so much. I haven't seen Liz

since I stopped going to smack during the pandemic and I miss her so. And I think after listening,

you will want to hear more Liz Crowe. So you should. And she is part of the St. Emlen's podcast.

In addition to that nursing podcast, I mentioned and you could hear a bunch more about burnout and

all sorts of amazing topics from Liz on the St. Emlen's podcast. All right. So before we get into

the shows, two quick plugs. One is remarkably apropos for what we're going to be speaking about today.

I have mentioned it already, but I will mention it again. My partnering crime, Rob Orman and I are

putting together a cohort course called Flameproof to keep you from getting burnt out to make you

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