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Cautionary Tales with Tim Harford

Embracing the Escape Fire (with Adam Grant)

Cautionary Tales with Tim Harford

Pushkin Industries

History, Society & Culture

4.76.4K Ratings

🗓️ 2 August 2024

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

Cautionary Conversation: Steve Jobs hated his phone so much that he smashed it against a wall. He also referred to mobile carriers as "orifices". Yet he went on to invent the world's most popular smartphone. Why did he change his mind?

Tim Harford and organizational psychologist Adam Grant (Think AgainHidden Potential) discuss the consequences of letting our ideas become part of our identity; when it's essential to adapt; and whether frogs really do stay sitting in slowly boiling water.

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Pushkin

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The Medal of Honor is the highest military decoration in the United States. Since it was

0:15.1

established in 1861 there have been 3,317 people awarded with the medal.

0:21.5

I'm Malcolm Gladwell and our new podcast from

0:24.2

Bushkin Industries and I Heart Media is about those heroes. What they did, what it

0:29.7

meant, and what their stories tell us about the nature of courage and sacrifice.

0:35.4

Listen to Medal of Honor, stories of courage on the I Heart Radio app, Apple

0:40.5

Podcast or wherever you listen to podcasts.

0:44.0

The Medal of Honor is the highest military decoration in the United States.

0:49.0

Since it was established in 1861, there have been 3,518 people awarded with the medal.

0:57.0

I'm Malcolm Gladwell, and our new podcast from Pushkin Industries and I Heart Media is about those heroes. What they did, what it meant, and what their stories

1:06.8

tell us about the nature of courage and sacrifice. Listen to Medal of Honor, Stories of Courage,

1:14.9

wherever you get your podcast.

1:19.0

Late one blistering August afternoon in 1949, 15 men parachuted out of the wide Montana sky,

1:27.0

a mission to intercept and extinguish a forest wildfire.

1:32.0

Within minutes, their mission had changed,

1:35.0

to just survive.

1:38.0

These men were smoke jumpers, the wildfire fighting elite.

1:42.0

They landed near the top of Man Gulch with the intent of digging a line in the ground in front of the fire,

1:48.0

shepherding it towards an area where there was less to burn. It wasn't long before they realized the wind had turned and the

1:55.2

fire was racing towards them. Flames 30 feet high and gathering speed. There was no alternative to run.

2:04.0

And on flat, even ground wearing running a gear, that would have been possible.

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